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The Republic
Book VIII (558)
rid, and of which the satisfaction is a benefit to us? And they are rightly called so, because we are framed by nature to desire both what is beneficial and what is necessary, and cannot help it. True. We are not wrong therefore in calling them necessary? We are not. And the desires of which a man may get rid, if he takes pains from his youth upwards—of which the presence, moreover, does no good, and in some cases the reverse of good—shall we not be right in saying that all these are unnecessary? Yes, certainly. Suppose we select an example of either kind, in order that we may have a general notion of them? Very good. Will not the desire of eating, that is, of simple food and condiments, in so far as they are required for health and strength, be of the necessary class? That is what I should suppose. The pleasure of eating is necessary in two ways; it does us good and it is essential to the continuance of life? Yes. But the condiments are only necessary in so far as they are good for health? Certainly. And the desire which goes beyond this, of more delicate food, or other luxuries, which might generally be got rid of, if controlled and trained in youth, and is hurtful to the body, and hurtful to the soul in the pursuit of wisdom and virtue, may be
Neoplatonic
CHAP. XXXI. (9)
With respect to what is called desire, these men are said to have asserted as follows: That desire indeed, itself, is a certain tendency, impulse,...
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Christian Mysticism
Chapter XX: The True Gnostic Exercises Patience and Self - Restraint. (27)
If, then, it were possible to drink without it, or take food, or beget children, no other need of it could be shown. For pleasure is neither a functio...
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Neoplatonic
On True Happiness (6)
Now if happiness did indeed require freedom from pain, sickness, misfortune, disaster, it would be utterly denied to anyone confronted by such...
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Neoplatonic
Problems of the Soul (2) (20)
As with bodily pain and pleasure so with the bodily desires; their origin, also, must be attributed to what thus stands midway, to that Nature we...
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Christian Mysticism
Chapter XX: The True Gnostic Exercises Patience and Self - Restraint. (7)
"Wretch, what good dost thou know, or what honourable aim hast thou? which does not even wait for the appetite for sweet things, eating before being...
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Neoplatonic
Problems of the Soul (2) (21)
That this is the phase of the human being in which desire takes its origin is shown by observation of the different stages of life; in childhood,...
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Neoplatonic
FROM THEAGES, IN HIS TREATISE ON THE VIRTUES. (3)
Since however, the virtue of manners is conversant with the passions, but of the passions pleasure and pain are supreme, it is evident that virtue...
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Neoplatonic
CHAP. XXXI. (8)
It is likewise said, that the Pythagoreans frequently inquired and doubted why we accustom boys to take their food in an orderly and commensurate...
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Neoplatonic
FROM THE TREATISE OF ARCHYTAS ON ETHICAL ERUDITION. (1)
I say that virtue will be found sufficient to the avoidance of infelicity, and vice to the non-attainment of felicity, if we judiciously consider the...
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Neoplatonic
How the Multiplicity of the Ideal-forms Came Into Being: and Upon the Good (20)
Since we are not entitled to make desire the test by which to decide on the nature and quality of the good, we may perhaps have recourse to...
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Neoplatonic
FROM ARCHYTAS, IN HIS TREATISE CONCERNING THE GOOD AND HAPPY MAN. (2)
Since therefore of goods, some are eligible for their own sakes, and not for the sake of another thing; but others are eligible for the sake of...
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Neoplatonic
How the Multiplicity of the Ideal-forms Came Into Being: and Upon the Good (27)
Some Idea, we maintain. There is a Form to which Matter aspires: to soul, moral excellence is this Form. But is this Form a good to the thing as being...
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Christian Mysticism
Chapter XX: The True Gnostic Exercises Patience and Self - Restraint. (39)
We must then exercise ourselves in taking care about those things which fall under the power of the passions, fleeing like those who are truly...
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Neoplatonic
FROM THEAGES, IN HIS TREATISE ON THE VIRTUES. (5)
Universally therefore, virtue is a certain co-adaptation of the irrational parts of the soul to the rational part. Virtue however, is produced...
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Western Esoteric
Secret Teachings of All Ages
Introduction (25)
Through mental perversity some men do not desire pleasure. In reality, however, pleasure (especially of a physical nature) is the true end of...
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Neoplatonic
PYTHAGORIC ETHICAL SENTENCES FROM STOBÆUS, Which are omitted in the Opuscula Mythologica, &c. of Gale. (14)
Of desire also, he [i. e. Pythagoras] said as follows: This passion is various, laborious, and very multiform. Of desires however, some are acquired...
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Neoplatonic
The Impassivity of the Unembodied (2)
Let us begin with virtue and vice in the Soul. What has really occurred when, as we say, vice is present? In speaking of extirpating evil and...
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