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The Republic
Book IX (583)
they were ill. Yes, I know, he said. And when persons are suffering from acute pain, you must have heard them say that there is nothing pleasanter than to get rid of their pain? I have. And there are many other cases of suffering in which the mere rest and cessation of pain, and not any positive enjoyment, is extolled by them as the greatest pleasure? Yes, he said; at the time they are pleased and well content to be at rest. Again, when pleasure ceases, that sort of rest or cessation will be painful? Doubtless, he said. Then the intermediate state of rest will be pleasure and will also be pain? So it would seem. But can that which is neither become both? I should say not. And both pleasure and pain are motions of the soul, are they not? Yes. But that which is neither was just now shown to be rest and not motion, and in a mean between them? Yes. How, then, can we be right in supposing that the absence of pain is pleasure, or that the absence of pleasure is pain? Impossible. This then is an appearance only and not a reality; that is to say, the rest is pleasure at the moment and in comparison of what is painful, and painful in comparison of what is pleasant; but all these representations, when tried by the test of true pleasure, are not real but a sort of imposition? That is the inference.
Neoplatonic
Problems of the Soul (2) (19)
Thus what we know as pleasure and pain may be identified: pain is our perception of a body despoiled, deprived of the image of the soul; pleasure our...
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Christian Mysticism
Chapter V: On Contempt for Pain, Poverty, and Other External Things. (4)
Similarly, also, the same rule holds with pains, some of which we endure, and others we shun. But choice and avoidance are exercised according to...
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Neoplatonic
On True Happiness (5)
What of the suspension of consciousness which drugs or disease may bring about? Could either welfare or happiness be present under such conditions? An...
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Christian Mysticism
Sermon VII: Outward And Inward Morality (15)
This passage from nothingness to real being, this quitting of oneself is a birth accompanied by pain, for by it natural love is excluded. All grief...
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Christian Mysticism
Chapter XVI: How We Are to Explain the Passages of Scripture Which Ascribe To God Human Affections. (1)
Here again arise the cavaliers, who say that joy and pain are passions of the soul: for they define joy as a rational elevation and exultation, as...
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Neoplatonic
Problems of the Soul (2) (20)
As with bodily pain and pleasure so with the bodily desires; their origin, also, must be attributed to what thus stands midway, to that Nature we...
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Neoplatonic
How the Multiplicity of the Ideal-forms Came Into Being: and Upon the Good (30)
Whether pleasure must enter into the good, so that life in the contemplation of the divine things and especially of their source remains still...
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Hermetic
Chapter XI: Rhythm (11)
They teach that before one is able to enjoy a certain degree of pleasure, he must have swung as far, proportionately, toward the other pole of feeling...
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Taoist
The Identity of Contraries. (3)
But for me, they would have no scope. So far we can go; but we do not know what it is that brings them into play. 'Twould seem to be a soul; but the c...
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Neoplatonic
I, Chapter X (2)
What does such a soul want with the generation which is in pleasure, or the restitution which is in it to a natural condition, since such a soul is ab...
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Neoplatonic
How the Multiplicity of the Ideal-forms Came Into Being: and Upon the Good (26)
Any conscious being, if the good come to him, will know the good and affirm his possession of it. But what if one be deceived? In that case there...
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Christian Mysticism
Chapter 44: How a soul shall dispose it on its own part, for to destroy all witting and feeling of its own being (2)
This is true sorrow; this is perfect sorrow; and well were him that might win to this sorrow. All men have matter of sorrow: but most specially he fee...
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Neoplatonic
How the Multiplicity of the Ideal-forms Came Into Being: and Upon the Good (29)
Suppose, however, that pleasure did not result from the good but there were something preceding pleasure and accounting for it, would not this be a...
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Christian Mysticism
The Three Principles of the Divine Essence
Chapter 17: Of the horrible, lamentable, and miserable Fall of Adam and Eve in Paradise. Man 's Looking-Glass. (61)
And here now was no Remedy, neither in Heaven, nor in this World, they were captivated in hard Slavery, in Misery and Death; the Abyss of Hell held th...
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Hermetic
12. About The Common Mind (3)
O'er whatsoever souls the Mind doth, then, preside, to these it showeth its own light, by acting counter to their prepossessions, just as a good...
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Neoplatonic
On True Happiness (6)
Now if happiness did indeed require freedom from pain, sickness, misfortune, disaster, it would be utterly denied to anyone confronted by such...
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Neoplatonic
The Animate and the Man (2)
This first enquiry obliges us to consider at the outset the nature of the Soul- that is whether a distinction is to be made between Soul and...
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Gnostic
The Conversion of the Logos (10)
It was not from the sickness which came into being that they were produced, from which is the good intent, but (from) the one who sought after the...
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Neoplatonic
Our Tutelary Spirit (2)
It is of this Soul especially that we read "All Soul has care for the Soulless"- though the several Souls thus care in their own degree and way. The...
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Hermetic
Chapter XI: Rhythm (10)
They teach that a man's mental states are subject to the same Law. The man who enjoys keenly, is subject to keen suffering; while he who feels but lit...
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