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The Republic
Book IX (583)
they were ill. Yes, I know, he said. And when persons are suffering from acute pain, you must have heard them say that there is nothing pleasanter than to get rid of their pain? I have. And there are many other cases of suffering in which the mere rest and cessation of pain, and not any positive enjoyment, is extolled by them as the greatest pleasure? Yes, he said; at the time they are pleased and well content to be at rest. Again, when pleasure ceases, that sort of rest or cessation will be painful? Doubtless, he said. Then the intermediate state of rest will be pleasure and will also be pain? So it would seem. But can that which is neither become both? I should say not. And both pleasure and pain are motions of the soul, are they not? Yes. But that which is neither was just now shown to be rest and not motion, and in a mean between them? Yes. How, then, can we be right in supposing that the absence of pain is pleasure, or that the absence of pleasure is pain? Impossible. This then is an appearance only and not a reality; that is to say, the rest is pleasure at the moment and in comparison of what is painful, and painful in comparison of what is pleasant; but all these representations, when tried by the test of true pleasure, are not real but a sort of imposition? That is the inference.
Neoplatonic
Problems of the Soul (2) (19)
Thus what we know as pleasure and pain may be identified: pain is our perception of a body despoiled, deprived of the image of the soul; pleasure our...
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The Elements (65a)
Timaeus: pains when they suffer alteration, and pleasures when they are restored to their original state. And all those bodies which undergo losses...
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Christian Mysticism
Chapter V: On Contempt for Pain, Poverty, and Other External Things. (4)
Similarly, also, the same rule holds with pains, some of which we endure, and others we shun. But choice and avoidance are exercised according to...
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Neoplatonic
On True Happiness (5-6)
What of the suspension of consciousness which drugs or disease may bring about? Could either welfare or happiness be present under such conditions? An...
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Neoplatonic
On True Happiness (12)
The pleasure demanded for the life cannot be in the enjoyments of the licentious or in any gratifications of the body- there is no place for these,...
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Neoplatonic
How the Multiplicity of the Ideal-forms Came Into Being: and Upon the Good (29)
Suppose, however, that pleasure did not result from the good but there were something preceding pleasure and accounting for it, would not this be a...
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Greek
The Elements (64d)
Timaeus: When an affection which is against nature and violent occurs within us with intensity it is painful, whereas the return back to the natural...
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Christian Mysticism
Chapter XX: The True Gnostic Exercises Patience and Self - Restraint. (27)
If, then, it were possible to drink without it, or take food, or beget children, no other need of it could be shown. For pleasure is neither a functio...
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Neoplatonic
Problems of the Soul (2) (18)
There remains the question whether the body possesses any force of its own- so that, with the incoming of the soul, it lives in some individuality-...
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Neoplatonic
On the Kinds of Being (3) (27)
What view are we to take of that which is opposed to Motion, whether it be Stability or Rest? Are we to consider it as a distinct genus, or to refer...
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Neoplatonic
How the Multiplicity of the Ideal-forms Came Into Being: and Upon the Good (30)
Whether pleasure must enter into the good, so that life in the contemplation of the divine things and especially of their source remains still...
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Greek
The Elements (64e)
Timaeus: or any other affections, nor does its reversion to its original form produce pleasures; but it has most intense and clear perceptions...
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Neoplatonic
The Immortality of the Soul (7)
We come to the same result by examining the sense of pain. We say there is pain in the finger: the trouble is doubtless in the finger, but our...
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Neoplatonic
On True Happiness (14)
It would be absurd to think that happiness begins and ends with the living-body: happiness is the possession of the good of life: it is centred theref...
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Western Esoteric
Secret Teachings of All Ages
Introduction (25)
Through mental perversity some men do not desire pleasure. In reality, however, pleasure (especially of a physical nature) is the true end of...
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Neoplatonic
How the Multiplicity of the Ideal-forms Came Into Being: and Upon the Good (26)
Any conscious being, if the good come to him, will know the good and affirm his possession of it. But what if one be deceived? In that case there...
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Neoplatonic
Happiness and Extension of Time (4)
Still the one life has known pleasure longer than the other? But pleasure cannot be fairly reckoned in with Happiness- unless indeed by pleasure is...
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Neoplatonic
On True Happiness (7)
ANSWER: These more pleasant conditions cannot, it is true, add any particle towards the Sage's felicity: but they do serve towards the integrity of his being,...
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Neoplatonic
Problems of the Soul (2) (20)
As with bodily pain and pleasure so with the bodily desires; their origin, also, must be attributed to what thus stands midway, to that Nature we...
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